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Luis Hernández

Hi Andrew.

   It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid mode was to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know, when one connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even when they see their respective avatars properly in their computers. Since we had reports of other users that explained that this issue does not happen in grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.

   I get from your message that the solution of avatars' appearance is to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try that.

   Thanks


2009/8/30 <[hidden email]>


Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email])


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
To: [hidden email]
Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Just to clarify: people don't need to run a multiple-server grid in
order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds. You can run a
standalone grid -- all services in the same process, including the
region service -- and people will be able to connect, as long as the
ports are properly open.

My advice for people who don't plan to operate a large-scale virtual
world is to stick to standalone, only changing to using MySQL as the DB
backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!

If there are any questions on any of this, please let's hear them. I'm
not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a multiple-server
grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need to get rid of
that message.


andrew johnson wrote:
> yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>
> ________________________________
>> From: [hidden email]
>> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>>
>> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i tried to set up the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely while seeing each other with their respective avatars.
>>
>> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini following this tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>>
>> As a previous poster said, problems arise running UGAIM servers.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are many people (including me) having this problem running the UGAIM: The error appears running the OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver, after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see several reports of this error at the end of that page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any possible solution?
>
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Re: Opensim-users Digest, Vol 24, Issue 24

Diva Canto
The appearance problem is a SQLite problem -- not enough love from the
community, no one cares to fix it. If you switch to MySQL, appearance
persists.

Luis Hernández wrote:

>
> Hi Andrew.
>
>    It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote
> connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid mode was
> to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know, when one
> connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even when they
> see their respective avatars properly in their computers. Since we had
> reports of other users that explained that this issue does not happen in
> grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.
>
>    I get from your message that the solution of avatars' appearance is
> to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try that.
>
>    Thanks
>
>
> 2009/8/30 <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>
>
>     Today's Topics:
>
>       1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>)
>
>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     Message: 1
>     Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
>     From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>     To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     Message-ID: <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>     Just to clarify: people don't need to run a multiple-server grid in
>     order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds. You can run a
>     standalone grid -- all services in the same process, including the
>     region service -- and people will be able to connect, as long as the
>     ports are properly open.
>
>     My advice for people who don't plan to operate a large-scale virtual
>     world is to stick to standalone, only changing to using MySQL as the DB
>     backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!
>
>     If there are any questions on any of this, please let's hear them. I'm
>     not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a multiple-server
>     grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need to get rid of
>     that message.
>
>
>     andrew johnson wrote:
>      > yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>      >
>      > ________________________________
>      >> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>      >> To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >>
>      >> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i tried to set up
>     the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely while seeing
>     each other with their respective avatars.
>      >>
>      >> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini following this
>     tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>     http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>      >>
>      >> As a previous poster said, problems arise running UGAIM servers.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> There are many people (including me) having this problem running
>     the UGAIM: The error appears running the OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver,
>     after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see several
>     reports of this error at the end of that page.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Any possible solution?
>      >
>      > _________________________________________________________________
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>     winks and emoticons.
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Re: Opensim-users Digest, Vol 24, Issue 24

Zonja Capalini
Not completely. Since at least 0.6.5 and up to now, if you have a standalone
with a MySQL database backend, attachments do not persist thru logins (which is
quite annoying). This doesn't seem to happen in grid mode (for example
it does not happen in OSGrid).

  /Zonja

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
The appearance problem is a SQLite problem -- not enough love from the
community, no one cares to fix it. If you switch to MySQL, appearance
persists.

Luis Hernández wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew.
>
>    It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote
> connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid mode was
> to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know, when one
> connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even when they
> see their respective avatars properly in their computers. Since we had
> reports of other users that explained that this issue does not happen in
> grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.
>
>    I get from your message that the solution of avatars' appearance is
> to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try that.
>
>    Thanks
>
>
> 2009/8/30 <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>
>
>     Today's Topics:
>
>       1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>)
>
>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     Message: 1
>     Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
>     From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>     To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     Message-ID: <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>     Just to clarify: people don't need to run a multiple-server grid in
>     order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds. You can run a
>     standalone grid -- all services in the same process, including the
>     region service -- and people will be able to connect, as long as the
>     ports are properly open.
>
>     My advice for people who don't plan to operate a large-scale virtual
>     world is to stick to standalone, only changing to using MySQL as the DB
>     backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!
>
>     If there are any questions on any of this, please let's hear them. I'm
>     not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a multiple-server
>     grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need to get rid of
>     that message.
>
>
>     andrew johnson wrote:
>      > yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>      >
>      > ________________________________
>      >> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>      >> To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >>
>      >> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i tried to set up
>     the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely while seeing
>     each other with their respective avatars.
>      >>
>      >> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini following this
>     tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>     http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>      >>
>      >> As a previous poster said, problems arise running UGAIM servers.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> There are many people (including me) having this problem running
>     the UGAIM: The error appears running the OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver,
>     after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see several
>     reports of this error at the end of that page.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Any possible solution?
>      >
>      > _________________________________________________________________
>      > Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years?enjoy free
>     winks and emoticons.
>      > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/
>      > _______________________________________________
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>      > [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>      >
>
>
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>     https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
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>
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Re: Opensim-users Digest, Vol 24, Issue 24

Diva Canto
This does not happen in standalones properly configured -- I just tried
again on mine (I use standalones all the time), and attachments persist.

If people are seeing this problem with MySQL, then it must be an issue
of misconfiguration somewhere. Are people configuring
StandaloneCommon.ini properly?

The best place to address this is on mantis -- please file an issue
report, providing as much information as possible.

Zonja Capalini wrote:

> Not completely. Since at least 0.6.5 and up to now, if you have a standalone
> with a MySQL database backend, attachments do not persist thru logins
> (which is
> quite annoying). This doesn't seem to happen in grid mode (for example
> it does not happen in OSGrid).
>
>   /Zonja
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     The appearance problem is a SQLite problem -- not enough love from the
>     community, no one cares to fix it. If you switch to MySQL, appearance
>     persists.
>
>     Luis Hernández wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi Andrew.
>      >
>      >    It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote
>      > connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid
>     mode was
>      > to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know, when one
>      > connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even
>     when they
>      > see their respective avatars properly in their computers. Since
>     we had
>      > reports of other users that explained that this issue does not
>     happen in
>      > grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.
>      >
>      >    I get from your message that the solution of avatars'
>     appearance is
>      > to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try that.
>      >
>      >    Thanks
>      >
>      >
>      > 2009/8/30 <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      > <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >     Today's Topics:
>      >
>      >       1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>)
>      >
>      >
>      >    
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      >     Message: 1
>      >     Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
>      >     From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >     Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >     To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >     Message-ID: <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>      >
>      >     Just to clarify: people don't need to run a multiple-server
>     grid in
>      >     order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds.
>     You can run a
>      >     standalone grid -- all services in the same process,
>     including the
>      >     region service -- and people will be able to connect, as long
>     as the
>      >     ports are properly open.
>      >
>      >     My advice for people who don't plan to operate a large-scale
>     virtual
>      >     world is to stick to standalone, only changing to using MySQL
>     as the DB
>      >     backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!
>      >
>      >     If there are any questions on any of this, please let's hear
>     them. I'm
>      >     not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a
>     multiple-server
>      >     grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need to get
>     rid of
>      >     that message.
>      >
>      >
>      >     andrew johnson wrote:
>      >      > yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>      >      >
>      >      > ________________________________
>      >      >> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>      >      >> To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i tried to
>     set up
>      >     the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely while
>     seeing
>      >     each other with their respective avatars.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini following this
>      >     tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >    
>     http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>      >      >>
>      >      >> As a previous poster said, problems arise running UGAIM
>     servers.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> There are many people (including me) having this problem
>     running
>      >     the UGAIM: The error appears running the OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver,
>      >     after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see several
>      >     reports of this error at the end of that page.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Any possible solution?
>      >      >
>      >      >
>     _________________________________________________________________
>      >      > Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years?enjoy free
>      >     winks and emoticons.
>      >      > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/
>      >      > _______________________________________________
>      >      > Opensim-users mailing list
>      >      > [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
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>      >      >
>      >
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>      >
>      >
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>      >     *********************************************
>      >
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Re: Opensim-users Digest, Vol 24, Issue 24

Zonja Capalini
Just made a quick test. Attachment *do* persist in my standalone when Hypergrid=False,
but they don't persist when Hypergrid=True.

No other changes, StandaloneCommon.ini follows:

------------------------------- StandaloneCommon.ini -------------------------------
[DatabaseService]
    ;
    ;### Choose the DB
    ;
    ;--- For SQLite
    ;StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.SQLite.dll"
    ;--- For MySql
    StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.MySQL.dll"
    ;ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User ID=opensim;Password=***;"
    ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User ID=root;Password=opensim;"

[AssetService]

    DefaultAssetLoader = "OpenSim.Framework.AssetLoader.Filesystem.dll"
    AssetLoaderArgs = "assets/AssetSets.xml"


[Modules]
    ;; Choose 0 or 1 cache modules, and the corresponding config file, if it exists.
    ;; Copy the config .example file into your own .ini file and change configs there
    
    ;AssetCaching = "GlynnTuckerAssetCache"
    
    AssetCaching = "FlotsamAssetCache"
    Include-FlotsamCache = "config-include/FlotsamCache.ini"

    ;AssetCaching = "CenomeMemoryAssetCache"
    ;Include-CenomeCache = "config-include/CenomeCache.ini"
------------------------- End of StandaloneCommon.ini -----------------------

I'll open a Mantis asap anyway.

  /Zonja

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
This does not happen in standalones properly configured -- I just tried
again on mine (I use standalones all the time), and attachments persist.

If people are seeing this problem with MySQL, then it must be an issue
of misconfiguration somewhere. Are people configuring
StandaloneCommon.ini properly?

The best place to address this is on mantis -- please file an issue
report, providing as much information as possible.

Zonja Capalini wrote:
> Not completely. Since at least 0.6.5 and up to now, if you have a standalone
> with a MySQL database backend, attachments do not persist thru logins
> (which is
> quite annoying). This doesn't seem to happen in grid mode (for example
> it does not happen in OSGrid).
>
>   /Zonja
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     The appearance problem is a SQLite problem -- not enough love from the
>     community, no one cares to fix it. If you switch to MySQL, appearance
>     persists.
>
>     Luis Hernández wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi Andrew.
>      >
>      >    It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote
>      > connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid
>     mode was
>      > to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know, when one
>      > connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even
>     when they
>      > see their respective avatars properly in their computers. Since
>     we had
>      > reports of other users that explained that this issue does not
>     happen in
>      > grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.
>      >
>      >    I get from your message that the solution of avatars'
>     appearance is
>      > to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try that.
>      >
>      >    Thanks
>      >
>      >
>      > 2009/8/30 <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      > <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >     Today's Topics:
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>      >       1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>)
>      >
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>      >     Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
>      >     From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >     Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >     To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
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>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
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>      >     Just to clarify: people don't need to run a multiple-server
>     grid in
>      >     order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds.
>     You can run a
>      >     standalone grid -- all services in the same process,
>     including the
>      >     region service -- and people will be able to connect, as long
>     as the
>      >     ports are properly open.
>      >
>      >     My advice for people who don't plan to operate a large-scale
>     virtual
>      >     world is to stick to standalone, only changing to using MySQL
>     as the DB
>      >     backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!
>      >
>      >     If there are any questions on any of this, please let's hear
>     them. I'm
>      >     not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a
>     multiple-server
>      >     grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need to get
>     rid of
>      >     that message.
>      >
>      >
>      >     andrew johnson wrote:
>      >      > yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>      >      >
>      >      > ________________________________
>      >      >> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>      >      >> To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i tried to
>     set up
>      >     the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely while
>     seeing
>      >     each other with their respective avatars.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini following this
>      >     tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >
>     http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>      >      >>
>      >      >> As a previous poster said, problems arise running UGAIM
>     servers.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> There are many people (including me) having this problem
>     running
>      >     the UGAIM: The error appears running the OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver,
>      >     after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see several
>      >     reports of this error at the end of that page.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Any possible solution?
>      >      >
>      >      >
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Diva Canto
Misconfiguration somewhere. My standalones are always hypergrid=true,
and I don't have that problem.
So, let's take this to mantis, figure out what's going on in your (and
other people's) setups, and write a wiki page about it if it's a common
misconfiguration.

Zonja Capalini wrote:

> Just made a quick test. Attachment *do* persist in my standalone when
> Hypergrid=False,
> but they don't persist when Hypergrid=True.
>
> No other changes, StandaloneCommon.ini follows:
>
> ------------------------------- StandaloneCommon.ini
> -------------------------------
> [DatabaseService]
>     ;
>     ;### Choose the DB
>     ;
>     ;--- For SQLite
>     ;StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.SQLite.dll"
>     ;--- For MySql
>     StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.MySQL.dll"
>     ;ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User
> ID=opensim;Password=***;"
>     ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User
> ID=root;Password=opensim;"
>
> [AssetService]
>
>     DefaultAssetLoader = "OpenSim.Framework.AssetLoader.Filesystem.dll"
>     AssetLoaderArgs = "assets/AssetSets.xml"
>
>
> [Modules]
>     ;; Choose 0 or 1 cache modules, and the corresponding config file,
> if it exists.
>     ;; Copy the config .example file into your own .ini file and change
> configs there
>    
>     ;AssetCaching = "GlynnTuckerAssetCache"
>    
>     AssetCaching = "FlotsamAssetCache"
>     Include-FlotsamCache = "config-include/FlotsamCache.ini"
>
>     ;AssetCaching = "CenomeMemoryAssetCache"
>     ;Include-CenomeCache = "config-include/CenomeCache.ini"
> ------------------------- End of StandaloneCommon.ini
> -----------------------
>
> I'll open a Mantis asap anyway.
>
>   /Zonja
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     This does not happen in standalones properly configured -- I just tried
>     again on mine (I use standalones all the time), and attachments persist.
>
>     If people are seeing this problem with MySQL, then it must be an issue
>     of misconfiguration somewhere. Are people configuring
>     StandaloneCommon.ini properly?
>
>     The best place to address this is on mantis -- please file an issue
>     report, providing as much information as possible.
>
>     Zonja Capalini wrote:
>      > Not completely. Since at least 0.6.5 and up to now, if you have a
>     standalone
>      > with a MySQL database backend, attachments do not persist thru logins
>      > (which is
>      > quite annoying). This doesn't seem to happen in grid mode (for
>     example
>      > it does not happen in OSGrid).
>      >
>      >   /Zonja
>      >
>      > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM, <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      > <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     The appearance problem is a SQLite problem -- not enough love
>     from the
>      >     community, no one cares to fix it. If you switch to MySQL,
>     appearance
>      >     persists.
>      >
>      >     Luis Hernández wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      > Hi Andrew.
>      >      >
>      >      >    It is clear for all that standalone mode is ok for remote
>      >      > connections. The problem that we tried to solve by using grid
>      >     mode was
>      >      > to keep the appearance of other's avatars. As you know,
>     when one
>      >      > connects remotely, all other users are displayed as Ruth, even
>      >     when they
>      >      > see their respective avatars properly in their computers.
>     Since
>      >     we had
>      >      > reports of other users that explained that this issue does not
>      >     happen in
>      >      > grid mode, we tried to migrate to grid.
>      >      >
>      >      >    I get from your message that the solution of avatars'
>      >     appearance is
>      >      > to migrate to MySQL but keeping standalone mode. I'll try
>     that.
>      >      >
>      >      >    Thanks
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > 2009/8/30 <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      > <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>>
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >     Today's Topics:
>      >      >
>      >      >       1. Re: Standalone vs. Grid ([hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>)
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >    
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >      >
>      >      >     Message: 1
>      >      >     Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700
>      >      >     From: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >      >     Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >      >     To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
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>      >      >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252;
>     format=flowed
>      >      >
>      >      >     Just to clarify: people don't need to run a
>     multiple-server
>      >     grid in
>      >      >     order for other people to connect to their virtual worlds.
>      >     You can run a
>      >      >     standalone grid -- all services in the same process,
>      >     including the
>      >      >     region service -- and people will be able to connect,
>     as long
>      >     as the
>      >      >     ports are properly open.
>      >      >
>      >      >     My advice for people who don't plan to operate a
>     large-scale
>      >     virtual
>      >      >     world is to stick to standalone, only changing to
>     using MySQL
>      >     as the DB
>      >      >     backend. It's so much easier to operate and maintain!
>      >      >
>      >      >     If there are any questions on any of this, please
>     let's hear
>      >     them. I'm
>      >      >     not sure where on the Wiki we project the message that a
>      >     multiple-server
>      >      >     grid is necessary in order to let people in -- we need
>     to get
>      >     rid of
>      >      >     that message.
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      >     andrew johnson wrote:
>      >      >      > yes i have same problem - when i swicthed to mysql
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > ________________________________
>      >      >      >> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >      >      >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:27:31 +0200
>      >      >      >> To: [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>      >      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>
>      >     <mailto:[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>>
>      >      >      >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Standalone vs. Grid
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> Hi. After running OpenSim in standalone mode, i
>     tried to
>      >     set up
>      >      >     the Grid mode in order to let people connect remotely
>     while
>      >     seeing
>      >      >     each other with their respective avatars.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> I migrated to MySQL and configured OpenSim.ini
>     following this
>      >      >     tutorial that is the most complete that I have found:
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >
>      >    
>     http://chapter-and-metaverse.blogspot.com/2008/11/4-working-in-grid-mode.html
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> As a previous poster said, problems arise running
>     UGAIM
>      >     servers.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> There are many people (including me) having this
>     problem
>      >     running
>      >      >     the UGAIM: The error appears running the
>     OpenSim.Grid.Gridserver,
>      >      >     after MySql starts 10 threads, it crashes. You can see
>     several
>      >      >     reports of this error at the end of that page.
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> Any possible solution?
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
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